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Geneanet and DNA

Enviado: 22 fevereiro 2017, 22:21
por sjc
Does GeneaNet have any plans to implement DNA into the website? Either by allowing for upload and matching of raw DNA or offering a fuller service?
Thank you

Re : Geneanet and DNA

Enviado: 23 fevereiro 2017, 11:35
por jyb
DNA testing is illegal in France so we can't plan to add it to our website :-(

Re : Geneanet and DNA

Enviado: 08 março 2017, 23:02
por sjc
Wow illegal ? Ohhhh Thats so disappointing, I did not know this. That kind of makes sense as to why there doesn't seem to be any real action on my French Ancestry on AncestryDNA.  Obviously people in France cannot test.

Thanks for your quick answer, much appreciated.
Sharon

Re : Geneanet and DNA

Enviado: 04 novembro 2017, 16:36
por acarman1959
But you are based in Utah, United States, where we have the freedom to check our DNA.  Being located in Utah, you answer to the laws of Utah, don't you?  I'm asking because I am still looking to join an ancestry site, and the DNA feature would be a great plus.

Re : Geneanet and DNA

Enviado: 06 novembro 2017, 13:25
por jyb
No, we are based in Paris, France, and our website is hosted in Paris, France.

FamilySearch is based in Utah, United States.

Re: Geneanet and DNA

Enviado: 09 junho 2018, 08:29
por brunod2
Hi
I live in France i used the DNA site 23and me it takes about 6 weeks

Re: Geneanet and DNA

Enviado: 11 agosto 2018, 19:10
por ninahansen2008
Ancestry.com is having a sale on DNA kits right now. They do that from time to time. (In case you are reading this after the sale is over, just watch for a new sale!).

I have family in Cuba. Because the mail service between Cuba and the US is so unreliable, people here post to our Cuban Genealogy Facebook page and ask if someone is going to Cuba who would be willing to carry along a DNA kit. Folks are more than willing to do this. Is there a Facebook page for French genealogy? If not, then perhaps someone might create one.

If you have friends who will be traveling to France and who could carry along a kit for you, that might be one way to get the DNA testing done.

Another way is that if you will be in the US and can order a kit sent to a US address, you can test while you are here, mail in the kit, and then go on home to await the results.

If you do buy a kit this way, be sure to register it before mailing in the sample.

Good luck!

Re: Geneanet and DNA

Enviado: 11 agosto 2018, 19:28
por brunod2
as i posted before I purchased a kit from 23and me $99 and it as sent to me in France and isent it back and got the results 6 weeks later.

Re: Geneanet and DNA

Enviado: 29 outubro 2018, 09:44
por shellbell
I didn't know DNA testing was illegal in France. Such a huge disappointment. I'm in the UK, so I don't need to get one sent to me...I've already done one. But it does mean and explain why I'm not getting many matches with the French side of my family. :cry:

Re: Geneanet and DNA

Enviado: 18 junho 2019, 11:57
por rosie411
Can you tell me what is the thinking behind the ban on DNA testing in France, please. It is disappointing since half my DNA is French.

Re: Geneanet and DNA

Enviado: 18 junho 2019, 18:49
por ericdubois
According to this old article, the intent of lawmakers was to preserve “the peace of families”. I personally think politicians are afraid their past behavior would catch up to them. :twisted:

The result is the same. Few French people break the law to get a non-medically-necessary DNA test so your chances of finding French cousins through DNA are slim.

Re: Geneanet and DNA

Enviado: 18 junho 2019, 19:07
por femuse
better than nothing:

Généalogie génétique
430 topics
5229 posts
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https://en.geneanet.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=77580

Re: Geneanet and DNA

Enviado: 23 junho 2019, 22:50
por lee1209
Thanks Geneanet for the survey. I hope you can lobby France and Germany to allow testing. Is it a pride thing or fear of paternity disputes. I am working with many French whose fathers were American GIs to locate parents. Also I am trying to locate German fathers of thousands of French born during the German occupation. Right now I try to infer by using 3rd and 4th cousins in the US who have German relatives. So far everyone is cooperative and supportive with no sense of shame etc. on either side. Keep up the good work

Re: Geneanet and DNA

Enviado: 24 junho 2019, 08:35
por jyb
Thanks lee1209

Re: Geneanet and DNA

Enviado: 24 junho 2019, 16:49
por ericdubois
lee1209 Escreveu: 23 junho 2019, 22:50 Thanks Geneanet for the survey. I hope you can lobby France and Germany to allow testing. Is it a pride thing or fear of paternity disputes. I am working with many French whose fathers were American GIs to locate parents. Also I am trying to locate German fathers of thousands of French born during the German occupation. Right now I try to infer by using 3rd and 4th cousins in the US who have German relatives. So far everyone is cooperative and supportive with no sense of shame etc. on either side. Keep up the good work
From personal experience, the French are overall much more protective of personal privacy than Americans. That attitude is reflected in the laws of the country (for example compare when recent vital records are allowed to be public in both countries) and I have noticed it in the forums as well.

I doubt there is a single reason for the ban. Adultery, adoption and sperm donations come to mind. Not to mention the use of DNA tests for medical risk evaluation.

Americans are also much more likely to have a mixed heritage and a hard to trace paper trail. DNA gives them an "easy" way of finding their heritage (inaccuracy of the ethnicity estimates and misleading advertisements notwithstanding). I have seen many people test their DNA to get the ethnicity estimate and nothing more.

From what I gather in the forums, the law is not strictly enforced and plenty of French people have taken the test in a neighboring country or even having a kit sent to them in an unmarked envelope. I have yet to hear of anyone being arrested or fined. Your clients could use that option. But having the law on the books would prevent anyone from using an illegal test in a paternity lawsuit, for example.